Driver Recruiting Happy Hour Podcast
Shawn and Cilla Davis Talk Trucking
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We welcome Shawn and Priscilla Davis of the Tennessee CDL School to the Driver Recruiting Happy Hour podcast. We talk quite a lot about cheerleading. Really. From there, discussions move to shoes, golf, age, Priscilla and Darin both living in one-stoplight towns in Iowa, and eventually trucking.
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Today's Guests: Shawn and Priscilla Davis - Tennessee CDL School
As one of the most respected CDL schools in the country, the Tennessee CDL School excels in providing students the necessary skills to begin driving a truck professionally. Their instructors provide both the hands-on training and the classroom preparation needed to properly and safely operate a truck so students can obtain a Class A CDL license.
Shawn and Priscilla have been in the trucking industry for over a decade. Shawn started as a flatbed truck driver, operations manager for a trucking company, and then moved into teaching. He started as an intructor and worked his way up to Director and vice president for multiple schools. Priscilla started as a driver recruiter, then moved to Admin and HR. Together they strive to provide to give the community the best opportunity to change their life in the trucking industry.
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Darin:
Cheers everybody. And welcome to the Driver Recruiting Happy Hour podcast. My name is Darin Williams. I'm the president of CDLjobs.com. And with me, as always, my colleague, the President of Ten4 Recruiting and a man that with a little bit of luck and the right performance will become the first male Dallas Cowboys cheerleader next month.
Beach:
That's true. True. No, that's true. I cannot.
Darin:
How's the routine going?
Beach:
It's going good. The splits is still tough.
Darin:
I would imagine,
Beach:
Yes. Backhand backhand Springs are a little bit rusty into a split. It's not having. I mean, the stretching I'm doing, I'm doing a lot of yoga doing a lot of breathing exercises, especially when I go into the split.
Darin:
Breathing exercises are screaming
Beach:
When you both, both, especially when you get in that position, it's just like,
Darin:
What, what sort of get up do you wear to this thing? Do you still, do you wear the cheerleaders skirt or do they wear a skirt anywhere? They just wear shorts?
Beach:
Well, I don't know. I mean, depending on how old our audience is, I don't know. And maybe they're still wearing them these days, but I wear Tretorn, Tretorn shoes, you know? So that needs, that needs to be a, a mention in the, in the podcast, in the sense of when we get posted, like, have you ever heard of Tretorn shoes?
Priscilla:
What makes them Tretorn shoes?
Darin:
That might be a Tennessee thing?
Beach:
Tretorn Shoes. We heard someone in someone in the background. We heard that Tretorn shoes are like the most, they were the most popular brand of cheerleading shoes. And the reason why I know that is my sister
Darin:
You better explain.
Beach:
Yeah. Both were cheerleaders. And so you think of like swatches y'all remember Swatch watch? They were big.
Darin:
Yeah.
Beach:
Uh Tretorn shoes were big, just like that. You had to have the Tretorn. They had these little, little colors that you can put inside the, you know, on the side of the shoe to kind of match your high school or your junior high, whatever you were cheering for. And so yeah, we used to have a house full of cheerleaders. I hated it. That was so bad those times.
Darin:
That sounds like a terrible teenage childhood.
Beach:
It was horrible teenage childhood, but yeah. Tretorn shoes. Some you know, tighties, you know, little tighty shorts, little short, short. Jorts is usually my go to for those who don't know what jorts are. Those are
Darin:
Jean shorts with cowboy boots,
Beach:
Little cowboy boots, but Tretorns. But here's the thing with jorts. And a lot of people don't understand when I say you have to have a good fray ratio. So a lot of people just go and take their Jean shorts and they'll just come 'em right off and put 'em on no No. Fray ratio is actually, when you take the Jean shorts that you've made that you made not, you go to the store and buy 'em, you have to make 'em. Then you put them in the washing machine and then the dryer and that fray starts coming in. So you have some long fray from where the, from your thigh is, you know, it hangs down a little bit. So
Darin:
Kinda risque
Beach:
Yeah, little, you gotta have a good fray ratio. If not, then it just looks like something you just went to the store and bought not nothing that you made homemade.
Darin:
So you're very concerned with showing just the right amount of thigh when you wear your shorts?
Beach:
You have to have a, you have to have a good amount. I played soccer growing up. I, I feel like I have some good thighs. I mean, I'm looking at 'em right now. Flexing mighty fine. Mighty fine. Now. I mean, I could probably use some Nair, you know what I mean? Just rub some Nair on the give 'em where they need that might put me over the top with the Dallas cowboy cheerleaders. But yeah. It's it's going good. How are you doing?
Darin:
I, I, I just learned a lot. I, I feel educated,
Beach:
Ya know, that's this thing, you know, I, I bring, I think I bring a lot of it's worthless knowledge, but to the, to the, to these podcasts, but at the same time, when you sit back,
Darin:
No, that's the right way to say
Beach:
It. It is. Yeah. But when you say you go, what did I learn today? Tretorn. How many people are gonna Google Tretorn shoes? Or how many people I now are gonna go, oh my gosh, I had Tretorns. Now I, I'm just saying that's that, that, that's just little, little, tiny, little bit of of knowledge that I think that if I can provide to the world, then I'm good. I'm okay with that. I'm okay. Someone learned something new. I'm okay with that.
Darin:
Hey, speaking of providing knowledge, what about these guys we have on our show today? They're the owners of the Tennessee CDL school.
Beach:
Yeah. I mean,
Darin:
Shawn Davis and his boss, Priscilla Davis.
Beach:
<Laugh>
Shawn:
I can't believe you said that. Totally true.
Beach:
I heard her and I heard her yell, yell out, what are Tretorns?
Darin:
What are Tretorns? We'll edit that out. We'll edit that out in the post. Shawn. Don't worry about it.
Shawn:
I'm sure. I'm sure.
Beach:
Cause Shawn was like, you're gonna be quiet. You're she was like, don't do this to me. I mean like, you can see him like anyway. You've never heard of Tretorns?
Priscilla:
No. Did you?
Shawn:
Yes.
Priscilla:
How do you know em?
Beach:
You're the same age
Priscilla:
You don't have Sisters.
Shawn:
I don't, but I'm old.
Darin:
Priscilla. I'm with you. I, I, I have no idea. I've never, ever heard of Tretorn shoes.
Priscilla:
It has nothing to do with old, obviously
Darin:
Age
Priscilla:
I'm just kidding. <Laugh>
Darin:
If will, maybe it does. Cuz I am old and I, I have, I've never heard of them. I also didn't hang around to a whole lot of high school cheerleaders when I was when they're look at their shoes. So that might be it.
Priscilla:
Oh, that's what it is, that's what it is.
Beach:
<Laugh>
Darin:
I was the a.. Yeah, we gotta get off this subject. How are things in Nashville?
Shawn:
Things are amazing right now. Oh yeah but except for it being so stinking hot
Darin:
It's hot everywhere right now, brother. It's so hot.
Beach:
Oh, Nashville. Nashville's hot. Not you. Nashville's hot.
Darin:
Everywhere's hot. It's gonna be a hundred degrees in beautiful Eastern Iowa today.
Shawn:
Yeah.
Priscilla:
In Iowa?
Darin:
In Iowa.
Priscilla:
Wow.
Beach:
The state <laugh>.
Priscilla:
Oh
New Speaker:
Are you familiar Priscilla,?
Priscilla:
I actually used to live there, so yes I am.
Beach:
Did you really?
Darin:
How did I not know that? Where?
Priscilla:
I lived? Okay. Don't laugh at me.
Beach:
Oh, I'm going to.
Priscilla:
I lived in what was called Page, Iowa. I think there's like one stop light type of place.
Darin:
I, you know what I, I thought I knew every city in Iowa and I don't think I've heard of Page. Where was it? Or is it I'm assuming it's still there.
Priscilla:
<Laugh> the, all I know it was the, the Omaha airport was the closest one to it. So it's
Darin:
Like way out in Western Iowa.
Priscilla:
Yeah. It's like really south.
Darin:
We refer to those people as Nebraska <laugh>
Priscilla:
It took me. Oh my gosh. We to go to Walmart, it was a trip, like a road trip because the closest Walmart was an hour and some change far.
Beach:
Yeah. You're you're over there close to around that. That's over there around Fort Dodge.
Darin:
No, Fort Dodge is north, northwest
Beach:
But Page is, I mean, if you, yes. If I had to pick a city that was close to it it'd have to be Fort Dodge.
Shawn:
She just knows the name. Not where it's located. I mean, yeah. Bless her heart.
New Speaker:
It could be anywhere.
Beach:
How did you, how did yeah. Yeah.
Shawn:
She still uses GPS. She could, she could live in Orlando, her whole life and still use GPS to get everywhere.
Beach:
Oh, hold on. Lemme tell you something. Hold on. I'm the same way. Like I can remember map when map quest came out, I was like, now I can finally get somewhere. Now I know exactly where I'm gonna go.
Beach:
Driving down the road with pieces of paper, trying to look at where I'm supposed to go. This is, you know,
Darin:
I was always very good at directions and now it's ruined me. I follow my truck's GPS to wherever it goes. I can't get out of parking lots anymore. I don't even know what way to go. When we, when we're done, it's kind of a crazy ordeal
Priscilla:
And they change. They change all the time. All the roads.
Shawn:
I'll try to see how far I can go without having to use it.
Darin:
Well, apparently at some point in time, it took you to Page Iowa. Did you not, did you rescue Priscilla from her life in Page, Iowa and bring her to the bright lights of Nashville?
Shawn:
No.
Priscilla:
That was before him.
Shawn:
Yeah, it was before me.
Darin:
Oh. So should we try to get that guy on for a guest or just, just take this out and post as well?
Shawn:
No, no, no. That was back in her cheerleading days.
New Speaker:
The Tretorn shoes.
Priscilla:
I don't know what that is.
New Speaker:
So tell us about the Tennessee CDL school. What's going on with you guys.
Shawn:
Oh, wow.
Darin:
Busy?
Shawn:
Yeah, we're, we're booked out at least a month or more in advance right now. It it's going good. We've we've had a lot of support from some great companies out there. Like for instance, we just got a new simulator and it's amazing. It's fun to use. I might, I might be having too much fun with it after hours.
Darin:
Like a big video game.
Beach:
It's gotta be, you have to play video games on that thing.
Shawn:
Oh yes.
Beach:
You have to.
Shawn:
It's got the HDMI imports and everything
Beach:
Holy.
Priscilla:
And it has a, according to the, the safety officer, it has like a place where you can hide your system in while it's still plugged into everything. So you would never know unless you change the inputs.
Shawn:
Wow. That's cool.
Darin:
So I, I was curious about this.
Beach:
So can,
Darin:
You know if you don't, don't don't answer if you, if you don't want to what's a simulator cost ballpark?
Priscilla:
Six figures.
Darin:
Yeah, really?
Shawn:
Yeah.
Darin:
Yeah. Holy cow. That's scary.
Beach:
All right. Now would've gonna gimme four now more one. I mean it's a lot of money. Do you like that? I, I went to auction mode. I'm in Page Iowa right now.
Shawn:
Well, so was your network bandwidth right now. Apparently <laugh>.
Beach:
Was it bad?
Priscilla:
It was during that timeframe.
Shawn:
You were just frozen like this.
Darin:
Well, that's happened to me several times while we do this, so <laugh> here's hoping it doesn't happen again.
Beach:
Hey, so can, can you actually on the simulator, can you, can you import, can you add new programs to simulate different rainstorm snowstorms?
Shawn:
Yeah. yeah.
Beach:
And is that, where do you get those? I'm sure it's not. You have to pay for those downloads, right?
Shawn:
I apparently those are preloaded.
Beach:
Oh, okay. Yeah. Is there one where like a black TransAm pulls out in front of you pulls back, gives you the high five and then peels off again. Is there one like that?
Shawn:
She still doesn't get that reference, Matt. She's still not gonna get that reference.
Beach:
I know.
Darin:
We talked about that in
Shawn:
You try every podcast we do, you try that reference. She's still not gonna get it,
Beach:
But how cool would that be? Because Marilyn, Marilyn Surber sent me when she was at a a TCA ATA, BTA, whatever event. And she's there and she sends me a picture of her on the, in the simulator. And there's all these cop cars in front of her. I'm like, see, that's where you need like a Smoke and the Bandit simulator, pull up and take off,
Darin:
You look over to the right. And there's a basset hound sitting there
Shawn:
Every once in a while. It blocks the mirror.
Beach:
<Laugh>,
Darin:
It's a, it's a bit of a, a bit of an inside joke that but if you go back and watch, watch Just Truck It podcast with Shawn and Cilla, Beach and I were guests on there a couple months ago and we talked about that movie. We would not tell Priscilla the name of it. Because when you start getting into an age thing cuz she didn't didn't understand the reference. That day, I ordered a print and it still hasn't shown up here, but I, I ordered a print that will soon be in the background right over there of Buford T. Justice and, and the Bandit when he's ordering a Diablo sandwich and a Dr. Pepper. <laugh> sorry, pepper, sorry. Waiting patiently for this thing to show up.
Priscilla:
Why is it taking so long?
Shawn:
My, my next background that I'm gonna need is going to be the one of a special individual. That's at an Italian restaurant.
Beach:
Oh God, no, no, that would that I, I would be dead and rightly so. <Laugh>
Darin:
That sounds, sounds like a story there.
Beach:
Yeah. So I have another trivia question. This is a good..
Darin:
We are not going to talk about that at all, Shawn.
Beach:
No. Yeah, we're completely. But I do have, I do have a, a driving school slash movie quote. Top Gun just came out. Have y'all seen the new Top Gun?
Shawn:
I have not.
Beach:
I want, I want to, so there's a picture on the internet
Shawn:
Every night, every night. It's Top Gun at the house, cause I put my c-pap machine on and I'm in there going whoa,
Darin:
Crankin Kenny Loggins.
Beach:
<Laugh> <laugh> but there is a, there is a picture of me and the volleyball. So I imitated the volleyball scene. So there is an image out there on Google. If you wanna try to find that out there, Priscilla,
Darin:
I did not look for that.
Beach:
You should. But there is a quote in the very first Top Gun where they get in trouble and Goose and Maverick come out of their CO's office and they just got yelled at and Goose goes, Mav, do you have the name of that truck driving school? I think it's called blank. Do, do we still have that? Can I think I may need it? What was the name of the school?
Priscilla:
I'm Googling this?
Beach:
No, no. After,
Priscilla:
After, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, our, our listeners, can you put it in the comments and let people know
Beach:
But it is an actual truck driving school and I went online and yes. And they had a ton of commercials and yeah, something to check out.
Darin:
Was it the ones that had the the, the, the, the table setups at the convenience stores learned how to drive a big rig?
Beach:
They probably had that, but they, they were legit. They were it's a it's legit commercials.
Shawn:
Okay. That's awesome. I mean
Darin:
Well, if that's homework, I don't know the answer to that one either.
Beach:
Yep. So anyway, I have been thinking hard for that for a and I can't. I think that is a quality question. That's a good, that's a good one. That's a good that's good one,
Shawn:
Go wait, go ahead, Matt. Right now. Go ahead. Just, just, just go ahead. It's okay. Right? Yeah. There you go.
Darin:
You don't know the answer either?
Beach:
Oh, I know the answer.
Darin:
Oh, okay.
Beach:
Yeah. I know the answer.
Shawn:
The whole point is
Darin:
Not gonna share it with us.
Beach:
No, no, no, no, no. I want, I want the listeners to put it in our comments either on the YouTube channel, subscribe or LinkedIn, make sure you put the answers in there. I'm telling you its a Great, Great, great, terrific question. Its an, an actual legit school,
Priscilla:
I was pointing down.
Shawn:
Did you point over here? You're pointing over there?
Priscilla:
I was trying to figure out where would the subscribe button be? And then the comment button.
Darin:
You're explaining where to go in case of an emergency landing.
Shawn:
I thought we were doing Top Gun, for a second. <Laugh> Me and my c-pap machine.
Darin:
So Priscilla, the last time I talked to you, no, I guess we, we, we, we spoke in Nashville a couple weeks ago, but you were practicing for a golf outing.
Priscilla:
Yes, yes.
Darin:
What that was was it the CVTA?
Priscilla:
Yeah, it went really well.
Darin:
Did you guys win?
Priscilla:
So the only people who beat us and I'm sure they're listening.
Darin:
Its a yes or no question.
Priscilla:
They only beat us because they bought a whole bunch of mulligans.
Shawn:
They, they gave out mulligans for $5 a piece. And I think they bought all of the mulligans that they had.
Darin:
They bought everything.
Priscilla:
They bought like 20 mulligans or so
Shawn:
A piece
Priscilla:
<Laugh>. Yeah. And we only bought five for the whole group. So that's why they beat us.
Darin:
So it's under protest?
Priscilla:
But if it was under, we would've won
Beach:
Now, can you imagine me and my Tretorns, jorts, and some other shirt and riding around as a beer cart, dude?
Shawn:
I do. I do. I do vision it because I've actually seen you with your golf outside the house and the fart machine. You'd be hiding the bushes, waiting for everyone to sneak up on them.
Beach:
No, no. I'm talking about selling. I I've, I've always wanted to, like, that would be a weekend job for me to go and be a beer cart, dude.
Shawn:
Yeah.
Priscilla:
Me too. I feel like that would be so fun, get drunk in the middle of the day.
Darin:
Its about driving a golf cart Priscilla.
Priscilla:
Being in a golf cart and just passing out beer.
Darin:
Well, I think you're technically supposed to sell it.
Beach:
You're supposed to sell it. Yeah.
Shawn:
Yeah.
Darin:
That could be an issue.
Priscilla:
I understand, but
Beach:
You sure?
Priscilla:
Yes, but we could all drink like you by one. I buy one. It just <laugh>
Beach:
<Laugh> one for you. And one, two for me. Well,
Darin:
Every golf course owner in is cringing right now.
Beach:
<Laugh>
Priscilla:
Oh, oh. Cause you're at a bar and you never bought a bartender a drink, right?
Darin:
Absolutely. But I think the problem is the bartender giving it away.
Beach:
Yeah,
Priscilla:
No, No, No, they buy it. And then they buy mine. Come on.
Darin:
So I buy my beer and your beer.
Priscilla:
Exactly. That's how bartending works.
Darin:
All right. I guess I was unaware.
Shawn:
Explains her tip money. I don't know.
Darin:
<Laugh> Well you need
Shawn:
She didn't make any money the whole time.
Priscilla:
It was not about the money
Darin:
Circle of life. Tip.
Shawn:
Did you guys have fun in Nashville?
Darin:
Oh, it's always fun in Nashville.
Beach:
Did you freeze? He froze
Priscilla:
That was a good spot though.
Shawn:
That's a really nice picture of him.
Beach:
That is, I mean, this guy we had a nice night and its like oh my goodness
Shawn:
Hmmm...See some smoke coming out the ear a little bit.
Beach:
It is. I mean, look at that man. It is classic. I mean I could totally doctor that up.
Priscilla:
Does it still record during this time.
Beach:
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Like we now have control of it. I do have a, so I do have a, a real question about the schools. So going back to truck driving schools in general right now with y'all and you said the classes are full. Yeah. I mean, are you seeing like a backlog of people just in, in waiting and how long are they waiting to be able to get into a truck driving school on average? Now I know you're not speaking for all schools.
Shawn:
Yeah.
Beach:
But for the most part, you know, especially, you know, for y'all what are you hearing?
Shawn:
I, I mean from just the, the recent convention that we were all at the CVTA, I mean it pretty much was hands down. Most schools have at least a month waiting list or more. So obviously with the pay increases in the industry, the kind of light into how important trucking is with COVID and everything that happened. The recognition is getting out there that, Hey, this is a job you could do after three weeks, get trained, make some good money, more money than if I did this job or that job, or got extra schooling doing this. And so more and more, especially females, we have seen an influx of females.
Priscilla:
Oh yeah.
Beach:
Now why, why is.
Priscilla:
Half of our class.
New Speaker:
Why do, why do you think, I mean, there's gotta be a reason why you're seeing that, that influx. Is it just ads that are going out the push online? I mean, what, what do y'all, why do you think that's contributed to the huge increase in Female?
Shawn:
Probably a combination of all of that.
Priscilla:
I think it, yeah, I think it is a combination of everything of just changing the thought process of,ujust like influencers I'm sure are out there. They've just, trucking, you know, everything has an influencer, right? Even trucking does.
Shawn:
Yeah.
Priscilla:
And there's a lot more women in trucking influencers showing that they can, you know, as a woman driver, you can actually do it. And and that's been a big thing. I mean, Women in Trucking has been going hard in the paint. I see. And that's been a huge thing. A lot of just even walking up to them, a lot of 'em just say my uncle was one and he said I could be one. So that's why I'm becoming one.
Shawn:
Yeah. I think more and more are finding out about, you know, like I said, the pay as well, the pay and then the job is, you know, more, more being more conducive to them, with the technology and quality of life of the trucks of, of how you can get through and not have too many issues. Like it was back in the Smokey and Bandit days with, with your things that you need. So the, they, and they're watching, they're looking it up and educating themselves and seeing other women truck drivers. And so I, I've just seen a big influx in influx there.
Priscilla:
I also saw where a lot of companies are allowing children to come on the truck. And I think that also has helped, you know, mom
Beach:
Especially in the summer months when you think about
Priscilla:
Yes,
Beach:
You know, when they're outta school that can get on the road for a week or two now I'm sure they have to pay a, you know, a fee for that and sign documents, whatever, you know, if you get hurt in the truck, it's not our responsibility, so forth and so on, but.
Darin:
Isn't that typically a minimum age?
Priscilla:
Yeah, but if you can, you know, if let's say Shawn and I were teaming and we have our 10 year old homeschooling, you know, Shawn's driving while I'm homeschooling and then we switch and there has been so much of that and so much different variations of that that they have now been able to see it's possible. So they're out here just killing it.
Beach:
Yeah. That, yep. Good deal. Good deal. The now going back when you're a lot of you, you, you mentioned pay is pay is up, right? Are y'all seeing kind of that fight that we're seeing a lot of just in ad placement and regular trying to hire a regular experience driver. You seen that on the student side where the carrier partner carriers are you seeing, well, now we're paying this a week and now we're gonna pay this week. Are we, are you seeing that huge jump?
Shawn:
Absolutely.
Beach:
How much of that? I mean the past say three months, are you seeing like, it is just crazy?
Shawn:
Well, when, when we get sent documentation, you know, like the brochures and the flyers and things to give out in a couple of months, you know, we, we, we have to throw that away cuz there's new ones that came out <laugh> with different changes in it, you know? And, and so that's, that's, we're seeing that we're, we're also seeing a lot more smaller companies fighting to get in there with the big dogs that hire students and want some of that pie. I mean, if I was to let a recruiter come in here to the school for every company that contacts us, wanting students, there would not be any training that would happen in any day for that person's entire time here because there's that many recruiters calling to come in.
Beach:
Unreal.
Darin:
Have you seen an influx of companies who are lowering their barrier to entry? Like the people that maybe two years ago required a six months or a year? That'll say we'll take someone from an accredited school now.
Shawn:
Yeah. Yep. Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean just in the past six months I can think of 10.
Darin:
Really? Yeah. Wow. And we probably need to see 10 more or a hundred more.
Shawn:
Yeah. There, there it's either adapt and overcome or get stuck behind.
Beach:
See, I would love to know those 10 and to be able to go back and go okay, what's your training program look like? Are you just doing it better? Being desperate?
Shawn:
Yeah, probably.
Beach:
You know what I mean?
Shawn:
Yeah.
Beach:
That's the ones that worry me of the, well we, we gotta get drivers somehow. Let's go get students. Let's go get em, go get em, go bring em in. And then
Darin:
Without a plan.
Beach:
Yes. And they're training is horrible. They get yelled, you know, it's cra- I mean, I, I get so many and maybe I'm wrong by saying this, Shawn, but you know, a lot of the schools and I'm not trying to water down the truck driving school at all, but y'all have a standard that you gotta follow and your goal is to get them their Class A that's it right? You're you're, you're showing 'em some, the safety based on FMCSA everything is to follow these, follow the, all the program, get that needed hours in, but your job is not to go, okay, let me talk to you about what it's like OTR for this week in school. Let's talk about what it's gonna be like when you do this in teaming and what that's not the case, is it? Cause I think a lot of, a lot of, a lot of carriers I used to hear, well, these students ain't no good. They don't know how to do this. They ain't, it's like, they're gonna not teaching 'em, you know, I had one kid, an individual's like, well, they just don't know anything about electronic logs and this and this. And I'm like, because a lot of your electronic logs are different. They're not the same across the board. Right? And you still you're still teaching 'em on paper, right?
Shawn:
Yeah. So we, we teach 'em, you know, on paper and kind of electronic to a degree. Yeah. You know, more of the computer side of it because that's part of the entry level driver training theory. But you are a hundred percent correct. I, and I wanna reflect back to, we just had a podcast with Derek Lathers from Werner.
Beach:
Yep.
Shawn:
And in that entire segment, you know, we, we talked about this entirely, this part right here. And, and the analogy that we used was if we're building the house, truck driving school is the foundation.
Beach:
Mm-Hmm, <affirmative>.
Shawn:
I's literally just pour the slab, the concrete, the solid foundation that it's not going to, you know crack or, you know, fall apart. Like that's what the house is built on. And, and you know, a few things you gotta have, you know, your plumbing in there, you know, lined up and some electrical in that, in that. So a few things like we might teach coupling, we might teach some logs. We might teach certain things that they're going need to know out there. They have nothing to do with the CDL. They're gonna be in that foundation. But the actual walls and roof don't go up until at the carrier when they get that training there at that carrier. And then even then for a year to two years of time and learning and doing the job, do you actually put on the actual paint and the decorations and, and, and fully make that house nice because it takes time to learn the job, not just in, in a short period of time, but in a long period of time.
Beach:
Yeah. I had some, some guy was making comments on my LinkedIn about that same thing and just, well, they don't know what am I, they don't know this, they don't know that. I'm saying they're not supposed to, they know it when they get to the carrier, the carrier's gonna teach 'em the ins and outs of there carrier.
Shawn:
Yeah.
Beach:
And that's where they learn a lot of the meat and the potatoes. But to your point, yeah. The foundation, man, you guys are doing a phenomenal job, but when it comes to setting that, I love that analogy, setting that foundation. Absolutely.
Shawn:
You, you have to, you gotta make sure it's solid enough that anything that they're taught at the carrier is just an add on.
Beach:
So you mentioned that you got a new simulator.
Shawn:
Yeah.
Beach:
Here's an idea. What if,
Shawn:
Oh boy,
Beach:
Listen to me. What if you put up walls and you enclose it in, put a little bunk in the back and you simulate me and you as a team, team driving simulating from Dalton, Georgia to Washington, whatever it is. And we're, we're gonna come up with a, and we have to take a, a load all the way to Washington, drop it off and come back. Oh yeah, we have to live in that truck. We have to live in that simulator for that amount of time to what it takes to go up there and back, you know, walk out to, you know, we have to pull off and get out to go use the bathroom shower. <Laugh>, you know, I'll even bring flip flops the whole thing just to simulate that whole, that whole concept, but still, what does that could, could that, would that be something that would be successful in the sense of training-wise versus also people would love to watch that YouTube video
Shawn:
People would love to watch that. I think more so than actually wanting to be stuck there.
Priscilla:
Oh my, yeah.
Darin:
Than actually.
New Speaker:
Can you imagine that two weeks?
Priscilla:
Twenty-Five comments and this happens,
Shawn:
All I know is
Priscilla:
I just need people commenting to yes. Please make this happen. 25 of 'em. That's all we need.
Shawn:
I could just see myself driving. I'm just paying attention. Trying not to hit no random people walking across the thing, how, I don't know how that simulator sends them out. And then all of a sudden get a wet Willy.
Darin:
Yeah. With Beach as a co-driver, what's the over, under on how many bridge abutments you pass before you just drive right into one. <Laugh>
Priscilla:
I wonder if there's a truck even gonna like be alive at the end of this.
Darin:
You know what that I real, I realize it's a joke and I realize it's made kind of as a goof, but the concept of it, it's not a terrible idea.
Beach:
It's not,
Shawn:
No, I
Priscilla:
It's not.
Darin:
I mean honestly, I think that's probably the most shocking thing. I mean, they're gonna come out of the Tennessee CDL school, fully educated, knowing how to do everything
Beach:
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Darin:
Except how to live with a driver trainer for six weeks. I mean, that'd be hard. I mean, how do you ever, you know, I don't know, simulate that, but man, just the, the life skills type portion of it is there's something there.
Shawn:
If you could survive a night with the, your instructor.
Darin:
Yeah. Without the
Shawn:
In the simulator, you're golden,
Darin:
No weapons involved weapons allowed.
Priscilla:
We would not be able to pay our instructor enough for that.
Darin:
I wanna get back and talk you did the interview on your podcast with Derek Lathers and he said something that stuck with me. I just, I it's just, it's so simple and I never even thought about it when you guys were at the beginning talking about electronic vehicles, electronic trucks, and everybody thinking that's gonna be the answer. He's kinda like, what do you, think's gonna happen to the price of electricity when everybody needs it? You know, just something that you never, I just, you know, like getting hit in the head with a, with a smart stick.
Shawn:
Yeah. The, the, the, the other thing that happened is when they built their terminal, they had about 15 different supercharger for the trucks. Go ahead. If they're going ahead and pouring the concrete, then we might as well have that set up there for whenever it does come down the pipe that it's already there. So, you know, they were, they're putting the dimensions in with the power company and what they needed. They had gotten from the company that made the, the superchargers. And they came back to, 'em saying, this ain't, this ain't correct. So they went back to their people, checking the, the actual data and came back. No, this is correct. And they're like, well, that's enough electricity for the entire town for a day. Like, that's literally how, what we produce yeah. To send to those 15 superchargers is what we do in a whole day for the whole city.
Beach:
See, my, my plugin, if I was the terminal manager for that, it would look like Clark Griswold's Christmas vacation, the plugin
Beach:
Just like knocking off. Oh, that one's out. Let me, let me re you know, it's out. Let me replace a fuse guys. I got this. We're good. I like one that was neat about Tesla's truck. I don't know if you guys saw that was a while back, but part of it, he said, you'll never have to replace. You'll never have to need new brakedrums whatsoever.
Shawn:
Yeah. Yeah.
Beach:
Because when the act of you're applying the brakes, it does what it does. The friction somehow creates.
Shawn:
Yes energy
Beach:
Power that goes back to the power cell of the truck. That's crazy.
Darin:
Yeah. It's kinda scary that how far we've come so quickly and we're still just barely scratching the surface. It's gonna look so different in two years.
Beach:
Yeah.
Darin:
I mean, just anyway, hey.
Shawn:
One thing for drivers real quick. If anything, for drivers, this is the time to get in the industry in reality, because as we're seeing with technology and everything, the quality of life for them, and the ability to have an easier job as time goes on is getting better and better. And they're still gonna have to have a licensed driver in there. They're still going to pay you, same as there's still an airplane that we get on and fly somewhere. There's still a pilot in the cockpit, and then they still put it on autopilot. So, you know,
Beach:
I don't know if, I don't know if United has pilots. I still debate on whether or not <laugh> they have when I get on there.
Darin:
They must have, because my flights delayed waiting for ' every time
Beach:
<Laugh>.
Shawn:
Yeah. But I mean, if I was a driver you know, sitting in that seat, I wouldn't have to be as worried or, or deal with as much in a day. And I could get, you know, some personal things done. I could read, I could do stuff, you know, in the future, you know, if my life is just gonna be a lot easier than, you know, what it used to be.
Darin:
Yeah. Again, man, we've come a long way. Tell us tell us where people can find you guys LinkedIn and tell us about the podcast quick. Beach has to get to cheerleading practice.
Shawn:
Oh, yes. Don't forget your shoes. Check us out on YouTube. It's Tennessee CDL school and, and honestly, Just Truck It is our podcast. You can find that on Google Apple podcast, Spotify, Anchor we're on all of those Just Truck It and it's the whole point of that show is just specifically for all drivers new and old that get to, you know, see a behind the scenes, take on the industry from ones that do those jobs.
Darin:
Yeah, it's a good one. It's a good one. I would encourage you to check it out. I really would.
Shawn:
Thank you.
Darin:
Beach, we gotta go. You got cheerleading practice. Priscilla's gotta go learn to be a bartender and Shawn and I have to go to work.
Shawn:
Yeah. Yeah.
Beach:
<Laugh>
Shawn:
I got trucks I gotta fix, I think this one's got a nail appointment here today or something. I don't know.
Priscilla:
First off it's actually pay week. So I have pay checks to make. All right. All right.
Darin:
That was that was one of these deals. I'm gonna have to practice hope to practice that. All right. Hey everybody. Thank you very much for coming on and talking to us for a little bit. Until next time, Be safe and keep on trucking.
Beach:
See you guys.
Shawn:
See ya. Always a pleasure.